The Message Bank
Jul 6th 2003 at 04:03:13 AM
NAME : Jean Bibbo
Subject: Camp Lavigerie
Dear Jim (Butters)
My family used to go to Camp Lavigerie on vacation
every year back in the 60's and 70's. I was sitting down
with my mother this evening and we were reminiscing
about all the people that we used to know. All of the
wonderful Brothers that were there and were wondering
what happened to them.
I noticed that you mentioned Brother Jim Heintz and
I remembered that name. I also noticed that there have
been reunions. I also remember Brother Joe Sullivan,
Gene Robiti (?), Guthard (?) and many others.
Do you have any information on any of the Brothers and if there will be any other reunions ?
Any information you can provide would be wonderful.
Sincerely, Jean Bibbo
CAN ANYONE BE OF ASSISTANCE TO JEAN, PLEASE ?
The history of the WF Brothers is scarcely covered in our website and they deserve better than this.
What can we do to remedy this ? Who would be a good source of information and photos etc. ?
Please contact me, also, if you can point us in the right direction. (Paul)
Jun 23rd 2003 at 03:36:31 AM
NAME : Robbie Dempsey
I found it OK , but now it's excellent.
I have just rediscovered my old copy of the Pelican
for 1960 when I was a first year kid in St Columba's.
Its end-of-year group photo hasn't appeared on this site,
yet. One article entitled "The Priory Debating Society
1959-60" caught my attention. I quote:...
6th December : Motion, "It is the opinion of this house
that people suffering from incurable diseases should be
put away by painless medical means." Pro, Mr Mair; Con,
Mr MacDonald. Result: Pro 8, Con 35.
7th February : Motion, "It is the opinion of this house
that those not athletically inclined should be forced
to take part in sport." Pro, Mr Bagshaw; Con,
Mr Frederickson. Result: Pro 9, Con 34...........
Well, whatever loquacious disputation ensued and whatever syllogistic arguments were eloquently
postulated on those wintry nights, I guess the SAME 8 or 9 little gobsh#&%s were IN FAVOUR of
both motions and I sure hope none of them got ordained.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
We are watching out for you !
Jun 20th 2003 at 02:33:38 PM
NAME : Paul West
Now playing : a plainchant version of Salve Regina,
resonating down the ages and tickling the hairs on
the neck of even the most distant *diaspora.
It also seems to have become the Pelicans' anthem,
so I include the words in both Latin and English in
case you need them in the thick of a Rangers' match, for example :
Salve Regina, Mater misericordiae,
Vita dulcedo et spes nostra salve.
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.
Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentes, in hac lacrimarum valle.
Eja ergo advocata nostra, illos tuos misericordes oculos ad nos converte.
Et Jesum benedictum fructum ventris tui
nobis post hoc exsilium ostende.
O clemens, o pia, o dulcis Virgo Maria.
Click here to play it
Hail holy queen, mother of mercy,
Hail our life, our sweetness and our hope.
To you do we cry poor banished children of Eve,
To you do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears.
Turn then, most gracious advocate, your eyes of mercy toward us.And after this, our exile,
Show us the fruit of your womb, Jesus.
O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary
To download a copy of the sheet music, go to :
*Sunday 2st June 2003 : Mike Mearns s to say that he can hear it in Toronto !
And loud enough to sing along to it. (What about Australia Mr Collyer ?)
**Ave verum (et al) will be available to you at a click of the button soon (plus an on/off switch, of course . . .)
Jun 16th 2003 at 02:50:25 PM
NAME : Paul West
Postcard from Wolverhampton:
Travelling back from Bishop's Waltham recently, I passed Ted Heath's cemetery
at Twyford but didn't have the time to stop. I soon found myself humming
Mozart's Ave Verum which I think was Ted Heath's favourite piece of 'sacred music' .
Whether it was or wasn't, it always reminds me of him, so here's to you, Ted.
Click here to play it
Please excuse the occasional bum note. It sounds as if it is being played on one
of those harmoniums that were stored in the old buildings by the side of the gym (1955 - 57).
I will change the tune when I get the opportunity. Hopefully, I will get a plainchant
version of Salve Regina up and running soon.
Weather is wonderful here, but I wish I had brought my own pillows.
Will write soon, Paul
Jun 16th 2003 at 10:37:54 AM
NAME : Mike Ellis
I enjoyed a very nice conversation with Eugene yesterday following his rather "self deprecatory" e-mail
expressing disappontment at the poor response to the invitation to vist St Columba's in September 03.
I apologised on my own behalf and said to him that we all appreciate the fantastic job done by him and
several other colleagues to maintain contact with so many - so long parted - friends.
I said he should not take it personally under any circumstances it is simply lack of thought, planning,
decision making and frankly, coutesy on all our parts! As with so many things these days, Eugene
feels that he is "herding cats" trying to organise us all, for events he has carefully planned!
I hope we all take a little time to help Eugene and his colleagues keep their chins up!
Keep up the good work Eugene, we do all appreciate what you are doing!
Jun 14th 2003 at 12:03:24 PM
NAME : Mike Byrne
I'd just like to back Eugene and add my two pennyworth. I have very much enjoyed the three reunions
I have managed to get to and I'm a fully paid up, completely and irretrievably lapsed catholic!!!! It was
just nice to meet so many civilised, friendly, laid back people. I met the bishop who did the service on
the Sunday of the BW reunion (I'd been hanging around in the car park outside the church waiting for
the coffee to be served). He was a nice guy and told me that one day he knew I'd be back in the church.
Character analysis is obviously not one of his strong points!
I look forward to seeing old friends (Pat McHale.....you have an excuse)in September at St Boswells.
If (like me)you've returned your RC membership the Dryburgh Abbey Hotel has a great bar and wonderful
restaurant. You can have porridge for breakfast.......that should bring back a few memories
Jun 14th 2003 at 05:39:00 AM
NAME : Paul West
Will be back in about 4 weeks stop. please feel free to use message board as and when stop.
(key under stone by garage, with change for meter, beer in fridge) stop.
will write if / when computer available stop. apologise to cat. goldfish normally that colour but could be water stop. please record simpsons but not over fr ted. no time to cancel milk. please drink if ok
Jun 11th 2003 at 04:46:34 PM
NAME : Mike McCormick
I met some great men among the White Fathers.I studied Theology in the late 60's at St.Edwards.
After completing University ,I joined the Peace Corps and spent 2 years in Chad and later on 6 years
in Sekou Toure's Guinea working for a Multi-National mining co.I also spent some years in Albania
working with A.I.D. and ORT in a school for ex-political prisoners who were persecuted during the
Enver Hoxha Regime-One of the true bastards of mankind.
Presently I'm undergoing treatment for Cancer-Lymphoma -Stage 4-so far so good I'm happy to report.
I frequently remember the fathers and brothers at Mass.Please remember me and I would be glad to
hear from anyone of you who might remember me .
Mike McCormickSyracuse New York
Jun 5th 2003 at 11:04:03 PM
NAME : Tony Smyth
To all those heading out to Bishop's Waltham this weekend, I wish I could join you but I doubt I could
make the trans-Atlantic swim. I hope you all have a great weekend and I look forward to seeing photos
in the Gallery in the near future.
Jun 3rd 2003 at 03:44:14 PM
NAME : David Ritson
Just a quickie to all. Happy Feastday. Martyrs of Uganda.
God and Mary bless you.
Jun 3rd 2003 at 01:25:02 PM
NAME : Bernard Melling
Just to express my sorrow at the passing of Bro. Paddy: a giant of a man in more ways than one! I was with
him both at The Priory and Blacklion and frequently worked beside him on the farm, with Hannibal,
the donkey with deformed hooves! May he rest in peace. Amen.
May 31st 2003 at 12:34:25 PM
NAME : Peter Finn
Thanks for letting us know of Paddy's death. Even though it was expected, it still came as something
of a shock. I had known him since I was 12 years old, and never imagined him as old or ill. He was
always the Bro Paddy I knew as a boy. A devoted brother of the Society, a holy man, a courteous man,
and a model for us all. Surely, if anyone is destined for Heaven it is him.
I haven't written to Gerry Murphy, as he will probably be inundated with letters of sympathy from around
the world. Perhaps in the fulness of time you could send him a note on behalf of us all saying how much
the individual Pelicans have reacted to the loss of Paddy, and how we are all praying for him. He must
have a huge family of WFs, former students, and benefactors offering up prayers for him at this very moment.
Oh, that we should all be so fortunate!
Love to Zelda,
May 31st 2003 at 12:30:42 PM
NAME : Tom Mackle
I was sorry to hear about Brother Paddy. Like anyone who met him, I have a multitude of memories.
One of them was coming across him one day behind the cowshed. He was digging into the earth at
various spots with a pitchfork, so I asked him what he was doing. He replied that he was looking for
a piece of machinery he had buried. "Never throw anything away. You never know when you might
need it. First you leave it lying around for five years and, if you don't need it during that time, you bury it.
Then when you need it you can dig it up. The trick is remembering where you buried it."
Please note new e-mail address. See you at Bishop's Waltham.
May 31st 2003 at 12:27:10 PM
NAME : WJ Nimmo-Scott OBE
Dear Eugene and Pelicans,
From around the world people I am sure people are reacting to the news of Brother Paddy's death.
Here in Singapore, it has come not as a surprise nor as a shock but as a great sadness that a kind,
gentle and inspirational man such as he has left us. My earliest memories of him are as a boy cycling
to the Priory (5 miles away) to spend time with Brother Paddy on the farm. He certainly inspired me to
join the Society and engendered a love of farming. (Sold my last cow a few months before the foot
and mouth epidemic).
Please add my sincere condolences to those of others who knew him better than I in his later life.
P.S. Forgive me if you have received this before. IT problems. It seems the system did not like having
so many recipients. Eugene, please feel free to copy this to the others as your system seems to be able
to do what mine does not. God bless.
WJ Nimmo-Scott OBE
350 Orchard Road
Singapore 0065 6725 9852
May 29th 2003 at 08:27:58 PM
NAME : Mike Mearns
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Well he's gone! But who can forget that strong, nasal voice calling the Priory milk herd with
"Giiiiiiiip, gip, gip, gip, gip, giip". God rest your soul, Brother Paddy.
I have two memories. One is being dragooned by Paddy along with Dave Airlie to go to Galleydown
just before Christmas 1957 to get the tree. " C'mon Boys" he said and off we went, Paddy driving the
Ferguson and the two of us perched on the mudguards. After a bit of searching we found "the one",
yanked it out of the soil and returned triumphant to the Priory with Dave and I holding the branches
off Paddy so he could steer a true course.
Another tractor story! Working on the farm, one of the hydraulic hoses split and the fluid jetted out.
Undeterred, Paddy grabbed a can, charged through the oily shower, saved most of it and gave
us a toothy, white grin, lighting up his blackened face in triumph.
May 29th 2003 at 12:49:49 AM
NAME : Paul West
Photos of Brother Paddy currently on display can be found in the following Pages of the Gallery section :
2, 8, 15, 28, 62, 85
He also features on Pages 1, 15, 16 & 25 of the Histories sectionas well as the obituary that he wrote
for Brother Aubert (Page 5)
I would be grateful for any other photos that you might be willing to lend me, along with tributes,anecdotes
and personal memories.
Many thanks, in advance, for your help with this.
May 28th 2003 at 12:14:42 PM
NAME : Fr Gerry Murphy (WF's Irish Provincial)
(COPY TO EUGENE MACBRIDE) :
From: "Missionaries of Africa
Date: Wed May 28, 2003 01:39:13 PM Etc/GMT
Subject: Br. Paddy - Funeral Arrangements
Please find below the funeral arrangements for Br. Paddy. I would be grateful if, as before, you would forward this e-mail to all Pelican in your address book.
Thursday 29th May:
7.00pm: Ceremony of Reception at Cypress Grove.
Friday 30th May:
5.15pm: Departure from Cypress Grove
5.30pm: Reception at St. Pius X Church, Templeogue
Saturday 31st May:
10.00am: Funeral Mass and burial afterwards in M.Afr. plot in Bohernabreena cemetary.
May 28th 2003 at 05:08:55 AM
NAME : Eugene MacBride
From: "Missionaries of Africa \(Irl\)"
Date: Wed May 28, 2003 09:06:43 AM Etc/GMT
Subject: Br. Paddy RIP
Dear Eugene and members of the Pelicans
It is with the mixed emotions of a great sense of loss but also of
thanksgiving that I bring you the news that Br. Paddy died this morning.
As you know, Paddy was is remission after an operation to remove a malignant
cancer in the colon early last year. At the beginning of February this year
Paddy began to loose the power of his left arm and leg. Initially we thought
that he had suffered a couple of minor strokes. However, a brain scan showed
that the cancer had travelled to his brain. We cared for him in Cypress
Grove until the middle of March when he was admitted to Our Lady's Hospice
in Harold's Cross.
Paddy was comfortable and happy in Our Lady's and could not speak highly
enough of the dedicated care he was receiving. But, at the same time, he
also spoke of how he was looking forward to the day he would be discharged.
There were mite boxes to be collected and Brendan O'Shea's ordination to
attend. He was tenacious to the end.
Last Saturday evening [24th May] his visitors noticed that he seemed to be
very tired. On Sunday the staff of Our Lady's informed us that his health
was deteriorating. He was sleeping a lot and when he spoke his voice was
weak. Last night when we were with him it was clear that he was living his
last hours on earth. He gave up his spirit quietly and peacefully this
morning at 6.50am.
For many a long day, many's the story that will be told about Paddy. At the
heart of them all will be gratitude for having known him and been enriched
by his presence.
No funeral arrangements have been made yet but I will inform you when they
P.S. Eugene, would you please forward this e-mail to all the Pelicans in your address book. Many thanks. Gerry
May 26th 2003 at 01:31:20 PM
NAME : Tom Canning
Oakley near Dunfermline Fife Scotland
I first found the site some time ago and have been checking it regularly.
One thing I have noted is there is not many people around form my time at Broom Hall in 1967.
It makes me wonder where they all disappeared to.
I have found some photos of BH taken during my time there and a list of some of the Novices and Postulants
of which I was one of five Scots at that time I will post them on shortly.
Your present BH photos in the gallery bring back some marvelous memories.
Please keep up the good work.
May 21st 2003 at 04:52:57 AM
NAME : Joseph Tyson
What is the Title of your Web Site:
Mary Immaculate Parish
A Description of your Web Site: A parish web site
Please note: Joe's website is run for the parish Mary Immaculate Parish on Long Island, where Fr Pat Fitzgerald is currently working. If you visit the site you will find a photo of Pat and some articles he has written to explain the background to his current involvement in the US.
(Thanks, Joe, for keeping us informed)
May 14th 2003 at 06:56:15 AM
NAME : Tony Visocchi
Summit, New Jersey, USA
Haven't surfaced for a long time but perused the websit just before heading of for Rwanda for two weeks of
workshops on Small Christian Community training. I'll be 65 in August and these long trips are beginning to
take their toll.
Lauged out loud at the picture of the Maguire twins, Chris with the cigarette in his hand. I guess we have all
progressed from Players Weights and Wills Woodbine and India Pale Ale at Galley Down (what was the
name of the pub?.
Has anyone seen or heard from Jimmy Youdale?
May 4th 2003 at 12:56:49 PM
NAME : John Prior (Contact with WF)
I was at St Columba's from Sept 62 until the fire then at Danby Hall Until December 64.
I was browsing through the Histories and found pictures of the fire and of Danby Hall. Michael Lenaghan
I remember well and also his brother whose name escapes me. The pictures were sold? to the boys when
we were at Danby Hall, I still have mine, but the are showing their years.
In the picture with Brother Owen O'Reilly and the two boys, one is named as Sean MacAnalley - I'm pretty sure his name was MacAnallen.
The tale of the fire was related by an Irishman and a Geordie. The lads from Glasgow and Edinburgh were
on a bus home together and on the road up to Edinburgh we passed a large column of Green
Goddesses. I still remember the feeling as we passed them.
Apr 7th 2003 at 12:43:10 AM
NAME : Eugene MacBride
Brother Paddy is back in bed after a stroke and I think we should rally round and send him all our best.
This is his address:
Brother Patrick Leonard
St Catharine's Ward
Our Lady's Hospice
If you know any Pelicans not on e-mail, perhaps you could let them know.
Apr 4th 2003 at 10:02:51 PM
NAME : Joseph Tyson
We are among the most fortunate parishioners in the world here at Mary Immaculate in Bellport. Our beloved pastor
Msgr. Bernard Ryan has recently suffered a stroke and is confined to a rehabilitation facility.
By God's will, Fr Pat Fitzgerald has taken up residence here at our rectory. We are so grateful for all the help he provides us.
Surely parish life would be poorer without his comforting presence.
Mar 31st 2003 at 02:23:57 PM
NAME : Mike Creechan
I have tried without success to contact Ged Hamilton, Peter McComiskey and Des Fitzmaurice. Any suggestions, anyone?
Mar 22nd 2003 at 01:09:31 AM
NAME : Paul West
Have you got an email address that we can add to our list of contacts ?
A lot of people will have read your message and some may want to contact you.
PS Please email me if you would like a copy of this list - with proof of identity of course!
Mar 17th 2003 at 01:50:15 PM
NAME : David Ritson
Have enjoyed what I've seen so far. New at computers so you'll just have to bear with me.Enjoyed reading
Dave Walker's reminiscences about trip to Rome. He missed out the bit about our rollicking from Fr.Conway
for missing out a trip to one of the Great Basilicas cause we were unable to be 'found' at the time. But we ended
up having extra choir practise with some french choir.
As for the L.P. - I always did wonder what happened to those. Nowadays I believe its referred to as 'Burning' discs. sorry. Dave.
Mar 16th 2003 at 01:40:22 AM
NAME : Eugene MacBride
I have been asked to let you know that Brother Paddy is not at all well and if you have prayers to say for this grand
man, please say them now.
Feb 27th 2003 at 11:29:55 PM
NAME : Paul West
I received this yesterday and thought that many of you will want to contact Fr Fitzgerald and wish him
success in his new posting:
"ON THURSDAY, MARCH 6TH FR PATRICK FITZGERALD M.AFR WILL MOVE TO THE FOLLOWING
MARY IMMACULATE CHURCH
16 BROWN'S LANE
TEL: 00 1 631 286 0154,
FAX: 00 1 631 286 2937
(The Oak Lodge address will soon cease, of course)
Feb 5th 2003 at 09:21:23 AM
NAME : Mike Ellis
Scotland originally - last 27 years in Surrey, England
I was introduced to Pelicans web site by Pat McHale who was at St Columbas with me 1960-63. I had almost forgotten about the site until Paul West sent me an e-mail yesterday asking if I had any photographs from that time. I have just sent him a pile of aged pictures of many who were in St Columbas at that time.
I hope Paul can help identify all the individuals featured as I have to admit I cannot remember all the names! Anno domini creeps up on all of us!
I hope you enjoy having a look at them if Paul gets them up on the system.
Best regards to all who remember me.
Jan 27th 2003 at 11:59:33 PM
NAME : John Halloran
Doncaster (originally Rotherham)
I was at The Priory in 1959 (Father Fitz was Head Warder) and at St Augustines the following year - I still think trying to learn Philosphy in Latin was like trying to climb Mount Everest in handcuffs!
When I think of those days, the feeling I get is more than nostalgia. There is a hole in me somewhere that will never be filled - "Into my heart a wind that kills, from yon far country blows.."
I don't know what made me join the White Fathers but I do know that it changed my life because it changed me. I would like to think I am a better person because of it. Don't get me wrong, it messed up my life big time. Getting back to civvy street to find all my friends had moved on didn't help, but not even that explains why, more than 40 years on, I still feel that I blew it.
I am now Chairman of a group of companies I founded during a lull in the storm. It keeps me busy and that helps, but the hole's still there.
I would love to hear from any fellow sufferer, especially anyone who is still addicted to fried black pudding a la Priory.
Maybe together we can make sense of it!
Jan 27th 2003 at 03:38:40 AM
NAME : Paul West
John Kearney has kindly sent us a photo which you can find on Page 17 of the Gallery section.
Can you help to identify the people involved, pleased ?
Please note: I will be "filling up" existing pages of the Gallery with extra photos for a little while,
rather than increasing the number of pages. Now that an increasing number of people have
broadband facilities I am able to expand each page to include more material.
Those of us who have not yet switched over to this faster service will find that it takes just a little
longer to view these pages, however. I hope that this does not inconvenience too many people.
Jan 26th 2003 at 05:03:55 AM
NAME : Paul West
You may be interested in reading about the history of St Columba's on Page 11 of the Histories section -
in which you will find the following written about the Mr Hughes that Chris refers to in the message below:
"Mr Hughes, a retired builder and stonemason from near Saltcoats, offered to act as Clerk of Works on
the following terms. He was to receive an egg for breakfast, an ounce of Warhorse tobacco, hot soup
whenever he wanted some - a special pot was kept simmering on the side of the stove - and eight
shillings (40p) per week. I think he also received his fare home from time to time. Later his son John
joined him as joiner."
Jan 26th 2003 at 03:50:33 AM
NAME : Chris Benton
In April last Year a group of Pelicans and wives had a weekend reunion St Boswells.
We enjoyed a visit to St Columba's and a walk along the tweed, a visit to Wallace's statue and Scott's View,
followed by lunch nand a walk around Melrose.
We also attended mass in Our Lady & St Andrew's Galashiels where many White Fathers were ordained.
( I can still hear myself chanting the Te Deum up in the choir on the occasion of Tom McKenna's ordination
in 1956). We had the pleasure of Mrs Hughes' company, throughout,whose husband and his father did so
much building work on the college. She is still a very sprightly 95 year old teenager full of memories.
We intend to make a further visit in Sept 2003., So that we can arrange a date convenient for all will anyone
interested 'E ' MAIL me , write or phone.
Regards & Godbless,
Jan 19th 2003 at 09:09:06 PM
NAME : Dermot Clancy
Melbourne via London and other places
I was at St Columba's (1956) the Priory, St Augustines and Broome Hall
I teach sociology now here at Victoria University in Melbourne
Thank you very much for all the work that goes into your website.
The memories it stirs in one
Jan 19th 2003 at 01:16:42 PM
NAME : MICHAEL CREECHAN
through pat tierney via my brother-in-law
baillieston(formerly hamilton, lanarkshire.)
i have been trying to several old priorians with lack of success in some cases. i should be pleased to know if the fact that i am using an internet television can have a bearing on this.
Jan 17th 2003 at 11:14:25 PM
NAME : John Kearney
I WAS AT ST COLUMBA'S AT THE TIME OF THE FIRE.
I WAS IN THE SECOND YEAR BUT NEVER RETURNED . I RECONIZED SOME NAMES FROM THE PAST:
FR JOHN LYNCH, FR SMOULDERS , PAT GRITTON AMONG OTHERS.
I LEFT AFTER THE FIRE HOWEVER I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO REMEMBERS ME .
I HAVE ONE PHOTO WILL SEND IT ON.
*I took the liberty of putting this on the website, in the hope that people will get in touch with John (Paul West)
Jan 7th 2003 at 04:51:56 PM
NAME : Pat Mc Hale
Aren't Mike Bolan's paintings wonderful?
I printed out the one of Cathage and took it along to show the
headmistress of the lycée I work in here in Guadeloupe
(French West Indies .) Now , she is a French lady but she was born
and spent her childhood in Carthage where her family had lived for
generations. Their neighbours were the White Fathers !
On seeing the print out she exclaimed : "Mon Dieu, Carthage !"
She is going to frame the print !!
Isn't the world a small place ?
greetings to all.
Pat Mc Hale
Please note: as you may know, website images are invariably of low resolution (to speed up downloading) and do not make good print-outs. Ebby's paintings have also been scanned at a higher resolution to produce better results. If you need quality print-outs, please contact Paul West.
Jan 6th 2003 at 10:11:29 AM
NAME : Gerard Hamilton
from Leeds (formerly Liverpool)
I was a pupil at St Columbas from 1949to 1950 and at the Priory from 1950 to 1952. Looking through the 'Gallery' brought back many memories of happy times particularly at St.Boswells.
Playing football planting trees snaring rabbits for Br.David sledging and in the Summer swimming in the freezing River Tweed,trying to form a boy scouts unit with Jarlath Hynes and going to the pictures in Jedburgh only to miss the last bus and having to walk the 8 miles back in the dark with about 6 other boys. Happy Days!
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